The new 888 from yoyo factory is a great yoyo for advanced players. It can do really awsome thumb grinds. It is also good for the plastic whip. The 888 yoyo has a really cool thing about it. The cool thing about it is that it can spin sideways. No other yoyo from any brand except yoyo factory can do that. The yoyo is also metal which makes it sleep longer. My advice on this yoyo is to Buy one.